Saturday, December 1, 2007

We Totally Don’t Speak Spanish!

What’s he saying, what’s he SAYING!!!

Disclaimer: This content was originally posted by Daniel Howell (BigRedKitty) on It is posted here for historical and archival purposes only.

Showdown at the BRK Corral

So you’ve wanted to know, which is better: The Skyguard Silver Cross or the Crystalforged Trinket. Well don’t think that BRK hasn’t been listening or doesn’t care. We just got back from Dr. Boom and doing a little testing.

We did two tests, one with the Silver Cross equipped and one with the Crystalforged. For both runs, we cleared the area, cleared all our buffs except Aspect of the Hawk, put 100 bullets in our ammo pouch, turned on the CLSaver combatlog, did not use Hunter’s Mark - refreshing it could interfere with out test - and let the Auto Shots flow.

Here’s our setup and stats for the Silver Cross run:

Image: Daniel Howell

And here’s our Crystalforged setup:

Image: Daniel Howell

WoWWebStats does an amazing job as always. For the Silver Cross run, we didn’t do anything but allow Auto Shot and IAotH to proc. The Silver Cross has no “use”; it’s a static trinket.

So here’s the report for the Silver Cross:

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The Crystalforged trinket does have a “use”, so for this run, we popped the trinket immediatly at the start of the run and then whenever its cooldown was up. In the 100 shot-test, we were able to crank it up three times and that is shown in the Buffs & Debuffs section of the WWS report as Valor.

And the report for the Crystalforged Trinket:

Image: Daniel Howell

Would you like to easily compare the two reports? We can do that by taking screenshots of both and combining them in another screenshot, like this:

Image: Daniel Howell

What can we learn from the analysis?

1. We expected the Silver Cross to give 1% more crit and the testing bears that out.

2. We expected the Crystalforged to give more damage per shot and that also occurs.

3. The extra mitigation during the Crystalforged run decreased the DPS and total damage, but not by so much as to cause a massive concern.

4. Total damage difference is 120, easily within the expected margin of error.

5. The total time was exactly the same, 2 minutes and 58 seconds, for both runs. That’s pretty cool!

6. This test did not take pet damage into account. The extra 1% crit from the Silver Cross would mean one more Kill Command and 50 more Focus, which would be two more Claws.

7. The extra damage-per-shot from the Crystalforged is advertised at +7, but our testing shows it only as +3, (447 with the Silver Cross and 450 with the Crystalforged).

8. Our testing is incomplete. This is a single test of only 100 shots. Multiple tests should be run for more accuracy.

Our recommendations:

If you’re a BM hunter, go for the Silver Cross. The extra crit gives more Kill Commands and more Focus for your pet.

If you’re a SV hunter, you’re an agility/crit hoarder already and are cradling your Silver Cross with both hands.

If you’re a MM hunter, you have a hard choice. Your crit percentage is not any higher than a BM hunter but your damage-per-shot and damage-per-crit is much higher. That extra damage-per-shot and haste from the Crystalforged may outperform the Silver Cross for you, especially if you have a pet specifically designed to hold aggro and tank, not DPS.

We hope you enjoyed this little experiment and maybe even inspired you to try a test of your own.

Disclaimer: This content was originally posted by Daniel Howell (BigRedKitty) on It is posted here for historical and archival purposes only.

Gankbang Drops By, We Restate Our Concern

So when we expressed our disappointment with WuWJutsu over their methodology, the super-cool fella who runs Gankbang stopped by to drop some knowledge on us. We appreciate the networking lesson very much, thank you kind sir, but there seems to be a little confusion over our complaint.

We totally appreciate the problems with extracting vast quantities of data when the servers that contain that data are heavily taxed. Totally. You have no idea. Remember where we work and what we do?

Our concern is not with the frequency that these cool sites are able to gather armory data and update their data.

Our concern is with the methodology WoWJustu uses, targeting specific servers and guilds much more frequently than others. We disagree with this philosophy vehemently.

It is stated in their FAQs that they do this. Now of course it’s his site, he can do what he wants with it. It’s free to use, we don’t pay a penny to access it, and if we don’t like it, we don’t have to use it, right? Right.

So we won’t. Neither will we advertise it, promote it, nor mention how awesome it is. And it is awesome, of that there is no contention.

If you want to design, build, and publish a WoW-tool, that’s wicked-cool. If you want to tailor it for the few super-high-end raiding guilds, more power to you. But if you don’t discriminate against 95% of the WoW-population, you’ll probably have more happy visitors, don’t you think?

Are we going to check WoWJutsu to see Nihilum’s progression? Nah. We can just go to their site and see for ourselves. What do we suspect the vast majority of the 9 million WoW players want to see?

“Dear WoWJutsu, how is our little #18,984 guild progressing on our server?”

How to do this? Here’s our recommendation:

Don’t update your published data every day. Make a specific day to publish all the data you collect all week. Do it on Tuesdays when the servers are down and nobody can play. Collect data all week, publish your new stats on Tuesday, have forums where people can chat-slam as they pass their dreaded horde/alliance rival guild, and then charge your advertisers more to advertise on Tuesday. Happier visitors, a stable data-publishing schedule, and mo money.

During the rest of the week, publish opinion pieces on how guild progression works. Tell us about the technical side of the website, how the data collection process works, give the coder-geeks something to read, give the rest of us intro lessons on how all this magic comes together.

Everybody understands that nothing of this magnitude, where the data is in a constant state of flux, can be 100% accurate in a non-real-time analysis scenario. Give us the best you can and we’ll be stoked.

Just don’t label us as second-class citizens. We think that’s rude.

Disclaimer: This content was originally posted by Daniel Howell (BigRedKitty) on It is posted here for historical and archival purposes only.